
Adobe Flash Player thought to be unsupported on new handheld
Nintendo has decided against supporting Flash content on its 3DS, according to reports.
In a move that echoes Apple’s ban on the Adobe technology, the web browser on Nintendo’s latest handheld is thought will not display Flash content.
That would mean the huge array of free Flash games available on the net, hosted on sites such as Kongregate, will not be available to 3DS customers.
Suggestions of Nintendo’s Flash block comes from a Kotaku interpretation of Nintendo’s official Japanese website.
Nintendo chief executive Satoru Iwata recently warned that too much content is flooding onto mobile and handheld devices.
In his keynote speech at the 25th Game Developers Conference, Iwata warned the world that “game development is drowning”.
The theory is that the flood of cheap and free content is damaging the craft of game making. It is not known for certain if this was a reason for Nintendo’s ban on Flash.
In the past two years Apple and Adobe have been part of a very public feud over the iPhone’s block on Flash content. Apple claims Flash is too slow for its devices.
"If you don't have the money to make it big, what you do small should be perfect." A wise saying from Chris Taylor, Creative Director and CEO of Gas Powered Games.
The game industry has taken a drastic turn in the past decade where the indie scene is growing. Game making is no longer an abstract and obscure process. More and more independent developers attract an ever growing audience.
As far as "drowning" goes, we can only suggest that it affects the big video games companies rather than the industry itself, which is, au contraire, growing fast.
Especially now with handheld gaming.
i wanted to have flash or html5 access wherever i went so please include it in a future system update.
They won't let you play Flash games because it allows people to play games any Nintendo or Apple won't get a look in on profits. A great shame, particulary as Flash is actually going from strength to strength (see Flash Molehill for instance!), despite the desires of those to bury it under a sea of claims about it being junk. Good to see Unity 3d supporting it in the future!
some body should send a message to nintendo to at least make a youtube app for it to be downloaded off of e-shop and it would just be a youtube player, not a web browser, only a special youtube player for 3ds, that would be awesome! netflix for 3ds is coming out soon, and if it can handle netflix, it could handle youtube
Am on the 3DS right now, they need some sort of youtube app, or their own thing that allows you to watch videos.
yes definitely, or even a BBC iPlayer app like the Wii has
Flash would be awesome on the 3ds. In fact it would make the 3ds even better. I wish nintendo would make the youtube app for 3ds because they already have nintendo video and netflix. So if they can handle that, then why cant they handle flash. Plus it should be free because netflix and nintendo video are both free. So why shouldnt this be free. Its practically the same thing, So if nintendo does decide to make the youtube app or allow flash on a system update, it would probably boost the sale of the console itself. Plus I want to know why I couldnt download the last system update.
I'm onthe 3ds right now too. i also agree. nintendo is all about surveys to help gamers get more of what they want in order to maintain a large customer base. well why not open their ears to the millions pleading for some type of support for online videos?? lets not make the same mistake sony did and release a browser on a console that is practically useless! u cant even update posts on forums or even facebook! here's hoping nintendo does something about this that will truly launch 3DS into its self proclaimed title of 'most important gadget of 2011'
We need some sort of petition or something.
I mean I'd be willing to pay like $10 for flash support on my 3DS. The possibilities are absolutely limitless. I love Nintendo, but if they continue to ignore the wants of their customers, then they are going to go the way of the dinosaur.
Flash can support 3d video. (There ARE 3d YouTube videos.) if they want people to use 3d, then they need to connect them to 3d sources, and video on the 3DS won't hurt 3DS sales I'll bet.
I sincerely hope this article is wrong, and Nintendo is planning to release it in the future.
if we have no flash there is actually a chance there sales could plummet down a bit I mean, that could be pretty useful not just used for bordem like someone could send an email for their work or they might have to watch a video like a tutorial how to do something so they should have an update for flash or at least have it for people in the nintendo 3ds ambassador program because then not that many people will have flash if they are so worried about it
so like the subject says... facebook i have accessed and idk but i think you can post though idk about that for sure. I completely agree with youtube app thing though flash would be best I mean come on... without flash what I've found it could do is, show some pics (most fail though), show some very laggy motion pics, go to sites than have games but not be able to play them, and go to youtube and it fails. Not even considering adobe the 3ds can download NOTHING , and by that I mean no file http, zip, or any others (as far as I know...) and also why did a 8/24 NEW Nintendo Video (all is not lost) get replaced with the awful "it girl" (I already hated it the first time... =( ) also along with that I had a 7/13/11 video why didn't it overwrite that...? I hope you don't think I'm a "flamer" but I'm merely stating the true -9blades-
This is the EXACT reason why I won't buy a 3DS. Shoot yourself in the foot Nintendo. You need to realize that your customers are getting older and have more developed tastes. Giving us a browser that does nothing...the exact same nothing as your last system is not an upgrade. All you did was make enough changes you can force somebody to get a new system for your "new" games...which are all just remakes of old games anyhow. Get it together or I guess I'm a PSP guy now. *Sigh.*
i guess nintendo wants to prevent going over the top and start making mini laptops. i know it isn't really like that, but for me i just need it for internet. my work provides all my microsoft programs and all that, so do i really need that on mine? yes and no. but i think flash would make the system better. i agree with whatshisface up above me there. i bought a 3ds for 300 plus dollars then they drop the price to 150 and come out with red!? what is that?! i love the nintendo ds system but i could do without if this is the way nintendo is going to be.
im currently posting from my 3ds, according to nintendo of america hulu is also coming to the system, so far the 3ds can support netflix nintendo & video, if it can support hulu too it should be able to do games on facebook [apps] and youtube both requiring flash. they could make their own flash like the andriod has and limit the use to select things.
Why must the wii have youtube XL and the DS has nothing? I mean sure you can download those games anyway, but for movies? Why do we have net flix on both? but not a compatable youtube site? Thats really messed up. If we want free games illigally someone will always find a way, so what does it matter that you dont allow flash? flash would make alot more consumers buy into it.
Or atleast a Youtube App... But remember when Nintendo came out with that little movable light for your GBA? Rember how AWESOME it was to be able to play in the dark? And don't even get me STARTED on when the SP first came out! My point is is look at what happened to us! Next thing you know we'll be complaining about not being able to watch five videos at once while brushing our teeth! XD
I am also on my 3DS. Now, what is the logic in banning something that would make these sell even more? Get Flash, get java, GET WITH THE PROGRAM.
if 3ds gets flash they will have more money and plus almost every 2011-2012 device can mostly go on youtube
*facepalm* im also on my 3ds. Nintendo please get with times, this isnt the 1990's were everyone was casual. pleeease stop being stubborn for once.
im on my 3ds to and try to go on youtube when i see it says you need adobe flash player i say to my self was it werf wasting all that money the dsi did a better job and that didnt have adobe but that had more entertanement nintend took away the dsi best games and left the crap ones in and made it harder for people to have fun they make the good games expensive and i hope next update they bring the dsi stuff back :(
I AGREE THE THING I HATE THE MOST ABOUT MY 3DS IS THERE IS NO FLIPNOTE STUDIO !
If you have the technology to put flash on your browser, then I think many people will recognize that. Before I had my 3DS, I didn't even know it had internet because nobody said anything about it, most likely because it didn't have flash.
People these days use the internet so much, I mean, even my stone age parents are always nagging me to check my dang Facebook all the time. It's ridiculous how you wouldn't even think about adding flash, one of the most basic and essential parts of the internet. And if you don't implement it, who's going to stop us from using the computer? Which is also faster, and more convenient as well. Having a web browser that isn't constantly used by my family would be great, so please consider!
Also, please get rid of the shutter noise on the camera. It is REALLY annoying.
Wow... so many people on their 3DSes here, huh... I'm also on my 3ds now. And I was very disappointed when I tried using 3DS system transfer on my sis' dsi, then it said that I couldn't transfer flipnote cuz it wasn't on 3ds eShop. Who's up for a strike?
dang no flash the shop sux no wonder there selling at half price i loveed my 3ds , ultil that ís now i find it bites bowser ball psp all the way
Im on meh 3ds right now too.
1. 3ds doesn't supports any flash thingy? damn god. But it has nintendo video,right? That piece of shit dont work in Lithuania (thats where I life)
2.Nintendo should make some kind of chat where u are able to show urs face Like in star fox 3d.Or atleast you can speak whith yous friends like in pokemon black/white.
3.Cant I transfer flipnote studio to my 3ds?!?!?! thats lame.
4. I agree whith youtobe app.
5.Nintendo c'mon make something like html5 dudes ur in nintendo doesnt do anything -_-
On 3DS right now. And hey nintendo, heres the truth. 3DS+flash=money for you. 3DS+no flash=we use smartphones.Bring out youtube for 3DS. And wheres flipnote memo? How long will it take you guys?
Omg you guys, We have all these damn electronics that we can't even Deal with, Meanwhile Poor people , well the richest they'll get is a fucking dollar.! Be happy with whatever the fuck you got when some people don't even have all the shit we get over here! I mean, Look at all those poor little innocent kids in Africa and Haiti, 99% of em' haven't even started their lives, and are dying every second right now.. You guys are just stuck up peices of fucking horse shit. I mean, omfg! I could go on 1,000,000,000.000 years telling ya'll cunts how horrible it is over there, they would probably give their lives for a bottle of water, even if it is dirty! I swear to God If I ever won the jackpot, I'd donate it to Africa And Haiti! They don't even get 10% of the stuff we do. All you need To get a damn life,
1. Calm down mate! Although you're right,we are lucky to have 3DSs, that doesn't mean we can't suggest ways to make them better!(I do agree with the rest of it though.
2.A youtube app would be awesome, and so would a modded flash, but I would be happy to pay for a full flash.
3.GET RID OF THE CAMERA SHUTTER SOUND THAT EVEN PLAYS IF YOUR VOLUME IS OFF!!!!
im also on my 3ds, & i totally agree with u. some form of flash, youtube app, & no goddamn shutter sound! until that day, im using my ipod. srry nintendo, but step it up.
PSVita has Facebook app and many others apps, so, why cant Nintendo do it too? Today we have so many people that want not only to play games, but to, ya know, use internet anywhere with a handheld console. Idk, I just think that a Flash Player, or an App would be AWESOME for we, gamers, and for Nintendo too! Think about the money Nintendo hahah!
everyone here is saying the same thing nintendo, I think you should add a youtube app THAT WORKS, get an update that let's you have flash but blocks games (because that's what your complaining about:People being smart enough to go on their online game sites instead of buying them from you, e.g. VVVVVV) and instead of ruining flipnote studio with new stuff, just give us it. And to whoever posted that prejudice comment. Yes we knowww, but, when we pay 100 odd euro (got a deal) so that we can have the stuff they don't, we'd like the development to be a little more user friendly. Ok?
i think even if nintendo doesnt give us flash the least they could do is give us HTML5 which should also alow YouTube video play back
-the BlackPhatom
P.S. even if they don't i suspect someone will create a mod or home made app
x_X
3DS user!
The 3DS rocks, but it sucks for quite alot of reasons.
1.) No Flash.
2.) No Uploading/Downloading non jpeg/jpg files.
3.) Unreliable jpg viewer, worse than DSi 'cuz it expects you to download.
4.) Load times, most notable on some wikis that don't even get to finish.
5.) Fucking shutter noise!!!
6.) No YouTube, not even HTML5 demo works. :(
7.) If jpg image is too big/small or uses some odd color, you cant even view it.
8.) Did I mention, JSNES doesn't load.
9.) Instead of L/R triggers that stop working over time, their way too fucking sensitive! Even looking at them makes me go back in browsing.
10.) Not common, it freezes randomly. Not often, but mildly irritating, because you lose your history.
Still, I preferred the 3DS over Sony's PS Vita, 3DS has less gimmicky games, most likley not going to have ten billion football games like sony does, and they made fucking Donkey Kong while sony made... uhhh... what the fuck? A dick ball, I ain't shitting you, it goes in your undies and, PS2 gets worst accessory ever. Sony has no on board memory for the Vita, WHY!!!!!
Nintendo sucks, but not as much as Sony will with this PS Fucker. Miamoto, drop the money bags and listen to us!!!
on my 3ds know
my mum bought it but i wish she bought me a ipod touch instead it has flash and doesnt take the mic when loading sites has alot more free apps and has a music player hope ur readin this mum
im tired of the 3ds its so boring everybody would love a youtube app and i think vita is way better than the 3ds cuz ot has youtube comeon nintendo
The Psvita has a Facebook app. (supports some kind of flash or something) The 3DS has much more ram than Vita but yet the Vita has more apps. The thing is that it can't handle flash (3DS) but we all know that didn't stop Apple they put quicktime..... on their systems. Nintendo should make there version of quicktime for 3DS just saying
I'm on my 3DS at the moment, and I must say that I am PISSED OFF at Nintendo. Nintendo, we buy your systems hoping they are everything we hope they are. I bet that 99.9999999999% of your customers wish that the 3DS had Flash on it. Now, those customers may switch to other devices, like Androids, or Ipads, or something else that they can get by buying it from ANOTHER COMPANY. Now Nintendo, you can either step up and be part of the future, or you step down and have NO MONEY. I sincerely hope that you choose to put at least a Youtube application in the E-Shop or include Flash in the next system update. Please Nintendo! Your consumers want this!
Hello all protesters,
My name is Gavin. I am only 13. you guys better listen up. yes. ok so maybe the browser is completely useless. I know the pictures are only 240x400 to 800x600 and hell, maybe higher just viewing them. Nintendo is freaked... they are scared of what flash is capable of doing. flash can download playable roms/rars. hacks. .mpos ANYTHING your little minds desire. Some people said the flash player is limitless. EXACTLY! Nintendo is afraid of all the content out there that ANYONE CAN VIEW! porno. graphic adult stuff that minors cannot view. That in some states and places are illegal. Flash may seem good, but that will be the next...how can i say this...3d porno sensation. You might all disagree but ever since the 3ds came out. 13 of googles searches was... xxx 3ds. BAMN! but this isnt just about the porn ether. its the facts. dscraft. look at that one. may seem good, but its not registered. R4dsi/3ds gold. look at that. all these generators. hacked gift cards. fake social websites. ads. scams. spams. thefts. oh sure. minors can handle that. especially credit card memory on the eshop. plus. Nintendo hasent said ANYTHING ABOUT BANNING. but they didnt say anything about realeasing it. loo, at these facts. cuz this is the straight up truth. THIS ARTICLE WAS AN OPINION! A RUMOR. NINTENDO IS DEALING WITH SOME COMPLICATED CRAP WITH THE ESHOP AND FLIPNOTE MEMO. (dont get me started w/ that one) THEY DONT HAVE TIME TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THERE DECISION. THEY DONT OWN FLASH. THEY DIDNT SIGN WITH ADOBE, AND THEY PROVLABLY NEVER WILL. THEY ARE GOING TO BRING SOME GOOD TITLES THAT NOBODY IS PATENT ABOUT AND YOU ALL ACT LIKE RAPID CATS, CLAWING AT THERE BACK! heres an idea. why dont somebody email nintendo. dmca@noa.nintendo.com and ask. cuz thats what i did 4 flipnote memo. (its being worked on, not cancelled)
Wanna fight?
gaviniscool084@gmail.com
UGH I HATE BIG OPPOSERS LIKE THESE ON WEBSITES!! I CAN TELL UR FEMALE, OVERPROTECTIVE OF THE WORLD, AND LOVE STUDYING LAWS TO BECOME A LAWYER!!! YOU THINK UR THE WORLD'S MOM?!?!
Quote by Benjamin Franklin: It is quite foolish to give up freedom for security.
hello everyone and im posting this from my 3ds that nintendo was one of th worlds best gaming industries in the 1990s until it was beaten by sega’s sonic the hedgehog but when nintendo took controll back one of the most best games and the console dreamcast were lost which was the beginning of pure awsome graphics by sega.and now they are planning to release the new wii U which exeeds the xbox 360 and the playstation 3 s processors but that does'nt mean that it is completely different from the other nintendo consoles its the same fucking shit like the 3ds no difference and im telling you that you should never buy these nintendo consoles because they have very low amounts of entertainment.and as for nintendo i can only say that they can just go to hell because i was a fool since the day i bought the 3ds when seeing the capabilities of the xbox 360 and now im stuck with this fucking 3ds.... and i would laugh at the point that nintendo will support adobe with 3ds ,nintendo will never think of such a thing as a youtube app on 3ds . whenever nintendo will make new consoles and limited apps someone will always stand in their way. one time i bought an r43ds and then nintendo released a firmware update that disabled the r4 from running games and so much money was lost and now i cant get it back so once and for all i will say this the last time that NINTENDO YOU CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do not belong here if you are a nintendo hater, so go away, LEAVE US ALONE, AND GO BACK TO PLAYING SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, TROLL.
1. No flash, at least make the fucking browser worth our money
2. Put the ability to watch youtube on the damn thing
3. Stop it with the cheap ass arcade games on 3ds shop make somthing new!
4. Put facebook on or you won't sell another system
5. PUT DOWN YOUR FUCKING MONEY BAGS AND LISTEN TO US!!
im using my 3ds to post,ok 1st i love nintendo but sometimes i want to kick it in the bells,why does wii get a youtube app at the end of its lifespan and 3ds wich only has a year of life doesnt have a freaking youtube?we wanted youtube,they gave us nintendo video[total crap that i erased from sd,trust me takes a lot of space]we want flipnote we get swapnote[...]seriously,i bought the 3ds for the games but a little app treatment is pretty nice considering we wasted almost 300$ for this sistem.again still love you nintendo but get real.
What we want: Nintendo to listen to us.
The truth: They either won't, or they have and didn't care.
The result: Nintendo will slowly die.
PS: I am posting this from my 3DS, and to nintendofanseverywhere, there are multiple Sonic games on the wii and ds(all three) systems.
HEY NINTENDO NEED TO READ THIS, I BOUGHT A 3DS MORE THAN A YEAR AGO AND I NEVER GO ON IT U WANNA NO WHY BECAUSE
*THERES NO FLASH :(
*NINTENDO VIDEO SUCKS
*AND U CANT DO ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET
AND 5 OF MY COUSINS BOUGHT THIERS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO NOW THERE ALL SELLING THERE 3DS's SO NINTENDO GOTTA FIX THIS BEFORE 3DS IS VOTED WORST GAME CONSOLE IN THE WORLD
Ok Nintendo, I want Flash and I want it now. Why are you so stubborn when it comes to these kinds of things? I think you should allow Flash, or atleast a YouTube app.
Make the app because:
-Nintendo Video is terrible [more than 4 videos please, and make 'em entertaining while you're at it]
-My red 3ds became a brick
-Browser is bad; it can't handle playing videos
-There will be more 3ds sales
Keep this nonsense up and Sony just might sell loads of more consoles all because of only one little thing: FLASH.
Nintendo, you need to stop realeasing consoles that aren't better then the last one, I mean, really? Sure the 3DS has (barely visible) 3D, it isnt near as good as the DSi, your going down, you need to reverse your ways (And fire your Public Relations guy)
i'm posting this comment directly from my 3DS right now and i'm really mad at nintendo for a lot of reasons.
no flipnote studio.
no flash.
no youtube, even though there's youtube for my wii.
L and R buttons brake down WAY too quickly.
demos can only be used for a limited ammount of times (looks over at DEMO Adventure Time: HIKWYSOG).
theres really no popular games on it (such as Assassins Creed III, Black Ops II, Minecraft, etc.)
HOVEVER there are also a lot of GOOD things about it.
3D (duh!)
mobile Facebook on browser.
DLC from the eShop.
Friend List (similar to that of Xbox, PS3, and Wii).
ability to temporarily suspend most software (except normal DS games).
the circle pad.
the номε button (sorry about the messed up "e").
video recording (in 3D).
Streetpass.
miis.
the apparently upcoming "Super Smash Bros. [Universe]" for 3DS (and Wii U).
Guys, you ARE being a little too hard on them, but it's not easy putting something like a YouTube app together! And i think they just might make that app you guys want, because YouTube doesn't show anything REAAAAALLLY bad. Also, if money's what they want, then so be it! But they're only going to get more money if they give us what we want! Notice how the 3DS' were 300 something bucks when they came out. NOW, they're 169.99! It's for a reason!!
this is horrible i know how to make it better send them an e-mail tell them to make a youtube app I'm on my 3ds right know it will improve if they put it on
ignore Claires comment i bet she is Gavin M. Brown's sister
I am also writing from my 3ds. I'm actually quite astonished that they would even create a system with a web browser that didn't recognize the flash system. Honestly, all I wanted to do is to watch k-dramas via Crunchyroll using my ds for like trips and stuff. Guess that's not happening.
on 3ds btw 1 who shall i blame mojang for no 3ds minecraft or nintendo for disable downloads or flash 2 think of the money u get when get flash 3 thumbs to vote that 3ds sucks