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Rebellion elated with AvP sales, wants sequel

Rebellion elated with AvP sales, wants sequel

CEO Jason Kingsley happy with most reviews of the title

Longstanding UK developer Rebellion has revealed its delight after new release Aliens Versus Predator shot to number one in the UK charts.

And the studio told Develop that it’s keen to progress negotiations with Sega for a sequel to the game.

“We’re delighted to see the game shoot to the top of the UK charts,” said company co-founder and CEO Jason Kingsley, speaking from Paris.

“We wanted Aliens Versus Predator to be a critical success as well as a commercial success, which we think we have achieved.

“We’re also in discussions with Sega about ongoing support for AvP, and also about a sequel to the game,” he added.

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“I won’t say what stage those negotiations are in, but we would love to revisit the franchise. Fox are excited about what we’re doing, and we feel we’ve added value to the franchise.

“We would love to work with Sega again, there were a lot of things we couldn’t fit into the original. We are trying to do all the right things to make the franchise a success now and in the future.”

Aliens Versus Predator’s commercial success is great news for the British development industry, which is currently fighting for producion tax breaks to remain more globally competitive.

AvP may offer a view of what can be done if the sector is fully supported.

Developed at Rebellion’s Oxford-based studio, AvP has become the UK’s fastest-selling new release of 2010 – even outpacing Mass Effect 2, built by Canadian outfit BioWare.

And AvP’s success comes hot on the heels of Londoners Rocksteady taking three AIAS Awards for Batman Arkham Asylum.

“We’ve always of course been concerned with the UK dropping down the global league in terms of sales of UK-developed games, so it’s great to see AvP’s response,” Kingsley addd.

“The UK isn’t the cheapest place to develop games, but it’s definitely not the most expensive. So, fingers crossed, the success of AvP may help the UK get noticed a bit more right now.“

Kingsley said he was generally happy with the game’s critical response.

“The reviews have been mostly good,” he said. “We’ve had three totally shit reviews by some Americans, which is a bit odd. Some of them were inexcusably bad.

“If you discount those poor reviews AvP is averaging high for us.

“Obviously in the past we’ve had constraints put on us, meaning we’ve released games that we wanted to spend a bit more time on, which have critically been a bit underwhelming. That’s always a shame.”

Kingsley confirmed he was referring to recent release Rogue Warrior when citing those constraints.

“We do the best we can given the circumstances, and hopefully we have enough time to make the best game we possibly can, and that’s what happened with AvP.

“With Rogue Warrior, we did the best we could in the timeframe, and I doubt anyone could do any better given the circumstance."

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AVP

posted by Ben N. Feb 22, 2010 at 4:15 pm
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Ben N.

It's a shame the game is actually REALLY bad...

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Is not bad...its different

posted by NCXMIAMI Feb 22, 2010 at 5:16 pm
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NCXMIAMI

Everyone who has played the old ones on the PC, probably will like this new game. I did and i like it. Its not a perfect game, but it does a good job. If you are waiting for the next MW2 or Halo or anything like that, you won't find it here.
It plays different and if you learn the mechanics and understand the new melee attacks you will like it as much as we do.

There are things that i dont like as much, like the fact that there are no classes, just skins that you are unlocking gaining XP points. It would be nice to see at least a multiplayer mode where each alien or predator or marine had different abilities (if we are talking about the aliens...speed & power...),and different weapons (for predator and marines) (like they had in the older games) I miss Ichiro :)

At the end its a good game and i know if they implement those little things...it will be great.
You should at least rent it and give it a try.

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Awful.

posted by Kurt Munro Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm
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Kurt Munro

Treat PC gamers like idiots and this is what you get - terrible reviews.

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Dedicated servers

posted by Joolz Feb 22, 2010 at 5:35 pm
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Joolz

The most galling thing about the current AvP is the lack of dedicated server availability for the PC version.

Yet another bad console port.

Fine for singleplayer.

Unplayable multiplayer.

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Re: Dedicated Servers

posted by Jops Feb 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm
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Jops

Rebellion confirm dedicated servers coming soon:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29298.0

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AvP

posted by Sindri Feb 22, 2010 at 7:10 pm
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Sindri

This is wonderful news to hear. I only hope they release some modding tools to tide us over until the sequel. The current game is fun in its own right but i find it somewhat lacking compared to its predecessors. Many things were missing but this is easily fixable via DLC or mods. Maybe they'll add them in to the sequel. My favorite thing about AvP2 was starting out as a lowly facehugger and going through the aliens lifecycle.

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Awful

posted by Chris Feb 23, 2010 at 7:09 am
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Chris

According to steam I've only spent 90mins playing this game. That surprised me as I thought it was very poor. Worst game I've played this, and probably last year unfortunately.

Glad my purchase supports the UK industry but its really a smack in the face of people who spend money for unfinished games (no dedicated server support on release? oh dear!) that are no where near good enough for the standards of games in this day and age.

There are a lot of worse games out there that I've had the good fortune to avoid but this is barely a 3 out of 10 game for me.

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Release now, fix later mentality...

posted by LeeC22 Feb 23, 2010 at 12:44 pm
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Chris, this is unfortunately an all too common scenario. Because of the connectivity of most things these days, devs/publishers have jumped on the chance of releasing broken products to get people's money, apologising profusely (as though it's something they didn't know about) and then promising to fix it later...

Unless of course, you're EA, and it's a Fifa game (like 10 for instance), in which case, you'll hide behind some excuse, refuse to fix it and rely on people buying the next £40 game instead. But in the interim, you'll (amazingly) find enough time to release another paid-for add-on, that people will be gullible enough to buy.

If someone punches you in the face, you either put your face back for another punch, or you turn round and walk away.

For some bizarre reason, gamers just keep putting their face back and the companies throwing the punches, just keep on laughing as the money rolls in. Me... I just laugh back as I pull the used game off the shelf.

Even though I have been a long term developer, I refuse to accept that people should pay good money, for broken goods. You wouldn't accept a broken TV, so why should you accept broken software?

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Is he serious?

posted by Zekk Feb 25, 2010 at 11:03 am
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Zekk

"If you discount those poor reviews AvP is averaging high for us."

Is this bloke serious?

I'll do a mini review that will be added to the list of "shit" he speaks of:
Single Player=Lazy development, and reuse of maps. Ridiculously weak predator, ridiculously strong alien, ridiculously weak marine.
All of these have a reason though, all of the "balancing" was done around multiplayer, so next time you are raped by multiple aliens, think of that and find comfort.

The alien being strong is ok, but the retarded AI of the marines that MARCH to the hissing is just flat out dumb. The alien campaign even in the highest of difficulties is just easy.

The Marine has it fairly easy, up until you start to encounter multiple aliens without the all too obvious "SHOOT HERE TO MAKE THIS EXPLODE". The "boss" fight was decent, the rest was rather bland, and the lack of "Journal Key" (Bioshock/Bioshock 2 anyone?) and continual pauses kills any sort of terror that was building up.

And the Predator...oh god...well I'll leave it at that.

So here we can scratch out Singleplayer as the reason to buy this game.

Now, Multiplayer, here is where its fun...when it works :

All things considered if you get a multiplayer game going, and that works, you might as well consider buying yerself for some lottery tickets.

No host migration contribute to a lot of frustration that players have, if you are doing TOO GOOD and your host decides to ragequit, you lose the game(and the XP).

With a matchmaking system that just doesn't work, a lack of host migration, and the unbearable lag, I think its safe to say, hold on to your money for at least another good 3 months. And read player reviews again, see if the game improved at all, if not, don't bother with this one, it still needs cookin'.

PS:
The reviews were pretty bad considering the profile of the game, lets face it, the highest it ever scored was on the "Official Xbox Magazine" and they suck for reviews.

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wow

posted by walter Mar 10, 2010 at 5:55 pm
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walter

you guys are a bunch of babies that need to give this company a break you guys dont mention the good graphics, the new melee system or horde mode. but hmmm mw2 didnt have dedicated servers and didnt hear shit about that. you guys just want to see this franchise burn so you pick it apart in every way you can. well the british guys got news for you top of the charts and sequel. so shove that up your broken merchandise A$$. This Game Rocks Tits. If you dont like it then you piss off and buy another game. if you wanna burn a game down because of a few FIXABLE bugs you might as well burn every game down but oh wait that would take your biased away welp looks like ive made point.

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@Walter

posted by Krass Mar 11, 2010 at 9:50 am
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Krass

http://www.develop-online.net/news/34079/Source-Rebellion-Derby-closed-Oxford-staff-cut

They blow chunks as a company.
Stop being their personal wanker.

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AVP sequel

posted by NCollieboy Apr 18, 2010 at 12:02 am
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NCollieboy

I really like the new AVP, i just hope if rebellion makes a sequel they take bigger risk and actually make a New avp, rather than one that is similar to the first

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Wtf-ever man....

posted by Bryan May 10, 2010 at 7:58 am
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Bryan

Aliens vs. Predator is a fun game in multiplayer...it's alright in single player. It lacks many things. I have a problem quantifying those things, it's mostly just a matter of feeling it. First off, I love the Aliens and Predator universes, I always have, I was brought up during the time of their most success, during the 80's. But this game lacks something...it's far...FAR...FARRRRRRRRRR too linear. When I load up a predator...I want to go to a planet I've never seen before to track something down, whether it be a drug lord or a politician...as an alien, I want to find myself on a strange planet bent with possibilities to breed....as a marine, I want to fix those problems, but NOT COMPLETELY ALONE THE ENTIRE GAME. Aliens Vs. Predator is a decent game, but that's all it is. DECENT. I want an ENGROSSING experience in the predator, alien, and marine world, and this game simply doesn't do it. It's just a new paint job on an old game. PERIOD.

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quit your bitchin

posted by a friend Jul 27, 2010 at 4:30 am
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a friend

as someone who barely touched the last avp games and as someone who rarely plays online i have to say that the game (single player) was pretty good, there are areas to improve upon and i think a sequel would give them a chance to do that as for multiplayer i havent touched it yet

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AVP

posted by Chris Aug 12, 2010 at 3:48 pm
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Chris

i love the combat dynamics .. can we improve and expand upon this next game and also expand and improve menus and visual things like seeing your own character -- perhaps classes or setups .. etc ... types of pred .. / alien .. marine .. remove alot of auto locking weapons etc .. and make it more acurate .. when u get good and take on multiple players .. its crucial and by making it more acurate will improve the gameplay 10 fold!! .... I am in a Clan with this game and love it .. please expand on this ... (ps am a PC player) also improve and make various more modes .. and improve dedicated servers ... and make more user friendly .. and customisable ... perhaps make it play faster .. ie make it run more efficient so slower PC's can cope it seems u must require the latest PC's to play it -- thus offering more playability to a wider audience and improving the whole gameplay as a whole..

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the sequal

posted by a fan Sep 06, 2010 at 4:45 am
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a fan

the sequal should put more focus on the hunt for all three characters have a part of the game where you can just go on a killing spree

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story

posted by brandon Jan 01, 2011 at 5:15 pm
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brandon

I am a big fan of both alien and predator franchises but avp is not of my interstes the really opened my eyes to the movie potential the avp franchise has but movies took a shit on the potential 1 problem with avp was that the campain was really short maybe just 5 levels
would have been good.2(and last)your predators energey was so friggen low.I have an idea for 2:1 Predator Campain-you and 2 other predators with different traits begin coming to a crashed predator finding dead predators with 1′s chest opened the others slaughtered.A feature I thought of was complete predator mask custimization like you put markings shape and maybe color.Back to campain you then proceed on a long journey to find the predalien in the end you incounter a lair of eggs and you then find the queen was the PREDALIEN after fighting a horde of young predaliens after a long battle you plant a bomb and proceed to leave.Alien Campain you start as a face hugger and you come off of the crashed ship and crawl to a building where you find a sleeping marine in a base(could be incorperated into predator campain.you then try to find your soon to be queen you are captured and then brake out and come to the lair you engage 1 predator killing him you find the dead queen and engage another predator after your battle you are wounded you try to catch the last predator but you get trapped by dabree falling you then finish off marines in the building after escaping you find the predator is far gone.Thats what i got but do what you want.I might post again for the marine campain cause im stumpt on that.

Read more: Aliens VS Predator 4 AKA Sega’s AvP 2 wanted by developer Rebellion - Video Games Blogger http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2010/02/24/aliens-vs-predator-4-aka-segas-avp-2-wanted-by-developer-rebellion.htm#ixzz19nxWFY3y

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AVP

posted by Brandon Mar 11, 2011 at 3:24 am
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Brandon

I loved AVP. I really hope they make another one.

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vw xenon headlights

posted by Mercedes xenon headlights Jun 09, 2011 at 10:47 am
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Mercedes xenon headlights

whether it concerns the movie or its video games adaptation, Alien Vs Predator has always been a crappy money making licence

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private jet charter cost

posted by private jet charter cost Jun 16, 2011 at 11:31 am
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private jet charter cost

i strongly alien vs predator sucks whether it concerns the movie or the video game

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AVP Game

posted by DRY Jun 22, 2011 at 4:17 am
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DRY

The AVP Games are good and the first AVP movie was good, not as great as it could've been but it was enjoyable. PPL obviousely sucked at the games.... and obviousely loved the Justin Bieber movie...

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mercedes xenon headlights

posted by charter private jet rates Jun 27, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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charter private jet rates

i totally agree with you DRY, the first AvP movie was just enjoyable, truly not a master piece however perfect for bier night with buddies

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PC Neglect

posted by Shaylok Jul 08, 2011 at 3:04 pm
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Shaylok

I beleive the reason this game was a bit underwhelming is that it was made (first in mind) for console gamers. Console gamers have the attention span of a gnat. What suits them is an insult to a pc gamer.

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AvP

posted by MBB Cetanu Jul 09, 2012 at 11:55 am
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MBB Cetanu

Im a AvP console veteran i played the game all the way up till now in the beginning it was a good game honestly considering the dead line they was given abd the limited resources they was given it is a good game.
but the thing about the console version is that there are so many glitches in the game that no one even plays legitly anymore the multiplayer is all about glitches and who can do them the best, not to mention the advantage of being host in the game over powers the predator entirely,
the lock on with the caster is garbage it never hits anything you lock on to because they wiggled left and right really fast making your caster shot fire in the air or the opposite position they are in so we had to find another way, we have to quck shot the caster before ot locks on to the opponent for it to hit anything,
and sometimes even if it hits them it dont kill them i saw in the story mode that one caster shot could take down a marine drop ship or air born vehicle but yet in teh multiplayer it sometimes takes to fully charged caster shots to kill a pred alien or marine, not only that the melee system for all the species in the multiplayer is trash honestly all the melee is extremely slow and lock on based, we had to find a new way to make out light and heavy attacks faster, not only that there is a glitch where you can hit an opponent with and alien or predator they can hit you with a heavy attack from like 20 foot away we call it the 20 footer,
and you can throw the smart disc through walls,
you can also hit someone in the foot with the disc and it does the damage of a head shot from the disc in another words instant kill,
you can also throw the trip mines through walls,
and also the trip mine dont detonate when you hold down on the d-pad, you can throw a trip mine on the spear and it makes your trip mines invisible even for a predator to see, the aliens can press the x button from an amazing distance and even if you turn around and start hitting the alien it still make you turn around and let them get the back grab even if your hitting the opponent, also if your an alien with your tail sticking through the wall the alien or predator on the other side of the wall can back grab you through the wall, not only that theres a way to do a non lock on light attack or heavy and it takes your health either half way with a light attack or you can hit them with a heavy attack which takes away 90% of your health, there is also a way for the marines to one hit kill you with melee while an alien or predator is performing a special kill, alos with that said the predator alien or marine can escape your special kill and while your holding nothing but air the opponent can kill you while your stuck holding nothing, the spear is garbage in general i can kill with it but it still is trash compared to any other weapon, with that said the re is a glitch where you can throw the spear continously with no delay, also every species in the can can escape the stun of a heavy attack simply by tapping the block, the marines can do a sniper rifle glitch in which they dont have to use the sniper rifle scope they can run around freely with the ability to see cloaked preds and hidden aliens through walls even, also there is a marine glitch where the marines can block with the shotgun and shoot at the same time, also if there is lag in the game everyone will fall through the floors on any map, also you can never find any matches in ranked i was there one time for 3 hours looking for a match but yet people were still finding matches, even the story mode has glitches where you can one ta 2 hit kill any alien or marine, theres also a glitch where you can fire greandes from your pulse rifle with no delay, it also works for the sniper rifle turning it into and automatic weapon, the flame thrower is a pointless weapon as well as the smartgun, the aliens tail attack takes to long to even hit an opponent unless they players suck that your facing,
even the rank system is dumb the highest rank in the game is 43? un even numbers really?
not only that they droped support for the game within it only being out for 6 months without patching anything except for the disc being a one hit kill no matter where you hit them,
not only that i have to lose energy form my suit and weapons just to heal what happend to teh avp2 energy sift? now we gota bend down to get energy leaving us at a disadvantage and with that said theres also a glitch where you can do a heavy and escape the bending down to get energy, not to mention a predator can charge the caster and do a double shot with teh caster,
the smart disc can also be used to locate an enemy no matter the species disabling the ability to hide or use any kind of stealth,
they didnt even give the aliens acid spit, or ventilations to use in the multiplayer making them pointless to use not only that they say use the shadows and darkness to your advantage umm what darkness? what shadow? all the enemy team does is turn up the brightness in the game,
so the aliens have no where to hide nothing to take cover in no shade nothing and a slow melee system that is easily beaten by over power'd predators, honestly i enjoy'd the demo more than the game itsself, the game was good at first but now knowing all the glitches you have to do just to be good at the game i dont even really play it anymore it honestly sucks nothing in the game is legit everything is a glitch even if you dont try to do a glitch you end up doing one and then your like how did i do that? lol i wish monolith would make the next avp because this avp for console is a joke im suprised this game alone didnt kill the franchise, this game made me go back to halo, iv been a alien and predator fan since i was a kid and this was terrible for me even though im known in the console as one of the best players in it no matter the species i still dont like the game im a avp2 pc veteran alien and pred player and the second game made this look like crap avp2 was by far the best avp iv ever played and this console avp no comment,
i dont even know why sega bother'd with rebellion after the messd up the first avp for pc back in like 1992 or when ever theres even more glitches that i havent told in this comment but i dont wanna say everything it would take to long over all this game blows more than hurricane katrina and that says alot my advice dont buy this game worst game ever but it was good at first until everyone started learning the glitches and bugs in the game in which completly over power a pred entirely the game is all about glitches and exploits and host and host compatibility who ever is more compatible with host will be the fastest in melee and weapons and thats my comment on this game but i am excited for the next avp hopefull monolith will do better if sega is smart plz give monolith the chance to save the avp games.

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